6.1.1550 FIND CORE

( c-addr -- c-addr 0 | xt 1 | xt -1 )

Find the definition named in the counted string at c-addr. If the definition is not found, return c-addr and zero. If the definition is found, return its execution token xt. If the definition is immediate, also return one (1), otherwise also return minus-one (-1). For a given string, the values returned by FIND while compiling may differ from those returned while not compiling.

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Rationale:

One of the more difficult issues which the committee took on was the problem of divorcing the specification of implementation mechanisms from the specification of the Forth language. Three basic implementation approaches can be quickly enumerated:

  1. Threaded code mechanisms. These are the traditional approaches to implementing Forth, but other techniques may be used.

  2. Subroutine threading with "macro-expansion" (code copying). Short routines, like the code for DUP, are copied into a definition rather than compiling a JSR reference.

  3. Native coding with optimization. This may include stack optimization (replacing such phrases as SWAP ROT + with one or two machine instructions, for example), parallelization (the trend in the newer RISC chips is to have several functional subunits which can execute in parallel), and so on.

The initial requirement (inherited from Forth 83) that compilation addresses be compiled into the dictionary disallowed type 2 and type 3 implementations.

Type 3 mechanisms and optimizations of type 2 implementations were hampered by the explicit specification of immediacy or non-immediacy of all standard words. POSTPONE allowed de-specification of immediacy or non-immediacy for all but a few Forth words whose behavior must be STATE-independent.

One type 3 implementation, Charles Moore's cmForth, has both compiling and interpreting versions of many Forth words. At the present, this appears to be a common approach for type 3 implementations. The committee felt that this implementation approach must be allowed. Consequently, it is possible that words without interpretation semantics can be found only during compilation, and other words may exist in two versions: a compiling version and an interpreting version. Hence the values returned by FIND may depend on STATE, and ' and ['] may be unable to find words without interpretation semantics.

Testing:

HERE 3 C, CHAR G C, CHAR T C, CHAR 1 C, CONSTANT GT1STRING
HERE 3 C, CHAR G C, CHAR T C, CHAR 2 C, CONSTANT GT2STRING
T{ GT1STRING FIND -> ' GT1 -1 }T
T{ GT2STRING FIND -> ' GT2 1  }T
( HOW TO SEARCH FOR NON-EXISTENT WORD? )

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